Red Hat Bugzilla – Bug 856090
ntpd not installed, causes firstboot to hang when user selects "Sync date and time over network"
Last modified: 2015-11-01 20:36:39 EST
Description of problem:
After installing Fedora 18 Alpha RC2 from liveCD (KDE spin), no NTP deamon is present in the new installation.
When user selects "Synchronize date and time over network" in firstboot and clicks "Forward", firstboot hangs trying to start a service that is not available and the only way out is to reboot the machine.
Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
Fedora 18 Alpha RC2 KDE Spin
Steps to Reproduce:
1. install system from liveCD
3. select "Synchornize date and time over network" in firstboot
firstboot hangs, because there is no NTP service installed.
An NTP daemon is installed from liveCD.
Didn't test with regular DVD/netinst installation.
This happened to me too right now while installing the Fedora 18 Alpha RC2 with KDE.
Proposed as NTH for F18 Alpha.
triaging to firstboot component, probably just needs a dependency added.
Firstboot only includes that screen from system-config-date. Reassigning.
Discussed at 2012-09-12 NTH review meeting. Accepted as NTH as hanging firstboot is obviously bad. It's not a blocker as, for Alpha, firstboot is only required to be able to create a user account.
Discussed at 2012-09-26 blocker review meeting: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-qa/2012-09-26/f18-beta-blocker-review-1.2012-09-26-16.03.log.txt . Rejected as beta blocker but accepted as NTH, there are no stricter firstboot criteria for beta so it's still not a blocker. Obviously accepted as NTH again as it was for Alpha.
Re-proposing as Final blocker too: there are no stricter criteria for firstboot even in Final, but perhaps there should be.
I feel like this is a duplicate of https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=857412. Different description, but isn't it caused by the same underlying issue?
it does sound rather similar, but this bug refers to a hang while that one describes an error dialog, so I'm not 100% sure.
I could not reproduce this bug with the F18-Beta-TC3 Gnome and KDE Live CDs.
During installation, defaults were to enable network time, and those were accepted. There were no obvious errors or hangs related to network time during installation or firstboot.
The chrony package was present in both the Live environment and on the installed system. Verified with "rpm -q chrony":
chronyd was running in both the Live environment and on the installed system. Verified with "ps -ef | grep chrony".
$ qemu-kvm -m 2048 -hda f18-test-1.img -cdrom ~/xfr/fedora/F18/F18-Beta/TC3/Fedora-18-Beta-TC3-x86_64-Live-Desktop.iso -usb -vga qxl -boot menu=on
$ qemu-kvm -m 2048 -hda f18-test-2.img -cdrom ~/xfr/fedora/F18/F18-Beta/TC3/Fedora-18-Beta-TC3-x86_64-Live-KDE.iso -usb -vga qxl -boot menu=on
NB: With the KDE Live CD, the installer hub was blank, but the spoke links were sensitive, and the spokes were correctly rendered, so it was possible to set a timezone and to select default partitioning.
"NB: With the KDE Live CD, the installer hub was blank, but the spoke links were sensitive, and the spokes were correctly rendered, so it was possible to set a timezone and to select default partitioning." - that's https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=864058 .
*** Bug 856093 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Is this still an issue? There haven't been any new reports for a while. From c#9, it sounds like this might be fixed.
yeah, this was fixed long ago, I think. let's close it, re-open if we're wrong.
*** Bug 883308 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Just had this happen to me when installing the Fedora 18 x86_86 lxde spin.
"This" being (a bit more details please)? I'm asking because s-c-date has code to cope with missing ntpd/chrony (it should disable any NTP options if no ntp daemon is available).
Sorry, "this" being a repeat of the original bug report, but with the lxde x86_64 spin. I used the graphical installation. In the timezone localization, Network Time was on. I was upgrading from Fedora 16 i686, and kept my old /home partition (a real struggle with the new anaconda). After rebooting, at the Date and Time stage in Firstboot, I left all options at their default settings. A pop-up appeared saying "starting NTP service" (or something like that) and it just hung up.
Thanks for the detailed explanation! Are either the ntpd or the chrony package installed on your system?
Sadly I've been tinkering since I did that install. I had some problems with another package and thought it might be easier to try the plain gnome fedora. I installed that, leaving the ntp box unticked, discovered that it didn't fix the problem and then reinstalled the lxde spin again. I left the ntp box ticked this time (just to see what would happen) and strangely it worked. It suggests to me that it's either a timing issue or a dependency on something in my home partition. ps aux says chrony is there. I've no idea whether it was installed the first time I tried it.