Description of problem: Fresh install of FC5T3 updated to latest development. rhgb shows cursor fine, but it disappears once the full X session starts. Section "Device" Identifier "Videocard0" Driver "nv" VendorName "Videocard vendor" BoardName "nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge" EndSection 00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a2) No difference if I comment out loading dri. Cursor comes back if I disable HW Cursor: Option "HWCursor" "off" Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): xorg-x11-drv-nv-1.0.1.5-3.1 How reproducible: everytime
Created attachment 125072 [details] x log
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Thanks, tracking bug https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3009 upstream. Another user is having this problem with the following chip ID also: <fedorared> 00:05.0 0300: 10de:0242 (rev a2) <fedorared> Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 5
The original reporter's chip is: (II) PCI: 00:05:0: chip 10de,0240 card 1043,81cd rev a2 class 03,00,00 hdr 00
*Not* experiencing this problem here: FC5T3 x86_64 nv (open) driver (proprietary driver was _never installed_ on this OS) Gigabyte PCI-E NX66128DP-Geforce6600 I'm only seeing what Jonathan Berry described on fedora-test list: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2006-February/msg01842.html "The very end tip of the arrow does seem to have one pixel that seems to become about the opposite color of whatever is underneath it; mostly only noticable when the pointer is on a white background. I don't think that is what you are referring to, though : )" I'm also affected by (unrelated bug, I think) https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6032 (command below run on the same machine but from Kubuntu x86_64 and proprietary nvidia driver) # lspci -vn 0000:05:00.0 0300: 10de:0141 (rev a2) Subsystem: 1458:3124 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 18 Memory at f4000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64M] Memory at d8000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] Memory at fa000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [68] Message Signalled Interrupts: 64bit+ Queue=0/0 Enable- Capabilities: [78] #10 [0001]
Created attachment 125280 [details] xlog file
Comment on attachment 125280 [details] xlog file I see this as Biostar TForce 6100-939. North bridge GeForce6100, SB nForce 410
Created attachment 125284 [details] x log for missing cursor
Missing cursor on ASUS A8N-VM CSM. (Geforce 6150). 00:05.0 0300: 10de:0240 (rev a2) Subsystem: 1043:81cd Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 11 Memory at fd000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] Memory at d0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M] Memory at fc000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] Expansion ROM at febe0000 [disabled] [size=128K] Capabilities: [48] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [50] Message Signalled Interrupts: 64bit+ Queue=0/0 Enable- 00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a2) (prog-if 00 [VGA])
Missing cursor on MSI K8NGM2-FID (GForce 6150) 00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a2) 00:05.0 Class 0300: 10de:0240 (rev a2) 00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (re v a2) (prog-if 00 [VGA]) Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd.: Unknown device 7207 Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 177 Memory at fd000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] Memory at d0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M] Memory at fc000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] Expansion ROM at feae0000 [disabled] [size=128K] Capabilities: [48] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [50] Message Signalled Interrupts: 64bit+ Queue=0/0 Enable
Created attachment 125285 [details] Xorg log file with missing cursor
I can see my cursor, but have that extra one pixel just after it's point. I filed a seperate but about X randomly not responding to the mouse_over and clicks. 05:00.0 Class 0300: 10de:0141 (rev a2) Subsystem: 196e:021f Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 5 Memory at cc000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64M] Memory at d0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M] Memory at cb000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] [virtual] Expansion ROM at cafe0000 [disabled] [size=128K] Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [68] Message Signalled Interrupts: 64bit+ Queue=0/0 Enable- Capabilities: [78] Express Endpoint IRQ 0 Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel Capabilities: [128] Power Budgeting
Created attachment 126196 [details] Xorg.log
Comment on attachment 126196 [details] Xorg.log Biostar tforce 6100-939 AMD x2 3800 SATA hwraid Invisible cursor, edit cursor breaks up. HWcursor has no effect.
Created attachment 126603 [details] X log from nvidia system with invisible bouse
Created attachment 126607 [details] X org log 00:00.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Host Bridge (rev a2) 00:00.1 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 0 (rev a2) 00:00.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 1 (rev a2) 00:00.3 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 5 (rev a2) 00:00.4 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 4 (rev a2) 00:00.5 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Host Bridge (rev a2) 00:00.6 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 3 (rev a2) 00:00.7 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 2 (rev a2) 00:02.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a1) 00:03.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a1) 00:04.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a1) 00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a2) 00:09.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Host Bridge (rev a2) 00:0a.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP51 LPC Bridge (rev a2) 00:0a.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation MCP51 SMBus (rev a2) 00:0b.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP51 USB Controller (rev a2) 00:0b.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP51 USB Controller (rev a2) 00:0d.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP51 IDE (rev a1) 00:0e.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Serial ATA Controller (rev a1) 00:10.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP51 PCI Bridge (rev a2) 00:10.2 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation MCP51 AC97 Audio Controller (rev a2) 00:14.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Ethernet Controller (rev a1) 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control
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Created attachment 126797 [details] Xorg logfile X log file
ASUS A8N-VM CSM AMD Athlon 64 X2 NVIDIA GeForce 6150 integrated graphics
same problem here with the same board as in comment #10 MSI K8NGM2-FID (GForce 6150) 00:05.0 Class 0300: 10de:0240 (rev a2) ---- VGA BIOS while booting ---- NVIDIA GeForce 6150 Version 5.51.22.28.00 Engineering Release - [...] -------- thanks, this works and the cursor is back again ---- xorg.conf ---- Section "Device" Identifier "Videocard0" Driver "nv" VendorName "Videocard vendor" BoardName "nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge" ## fehlender cursor, hwcursor off rhb#182517 Option "HWCursor" "off" EndSection --------
Created attachment 126869 [details] Xorg log file from invisible mouse session
Comment on attachment 126869 [details] Xorg log file from invisible mouse session same invisible curser problem nVidia GeForce 6100 integrated graphics ASRock K8NF4G-SATA2 motherborad AMD Sepm_64 2600+ Kernel Linux fed5 2.6.15-1.2054_FC5 #1 SMP Tue Mar 14 15:48:20 EST 2006 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux Xorg.0.log file attached
Created attachment 126957 [details] Xorg log Xorg log of session with invisible mouse
Comment on attachment 126957 [details] Xorg log I got the same AMD Athlon 3000+ ASROCK K8NF4G-SATA2 Same motherboard and integrated graphics as the bug reported above, different CPU. FC5 release
Created attachment 127440 [details] Xorg.0.log Problem as described by others. MSI K8NGM2 (GeForce 6150+ nForce 430)
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Occurs on Shuttle SN21G5 (GeForce 6100 integrated video, MCP51 chipset), using nVidia binary driver -or- open source nv driver. WORKAROUND: The hardware cursor will work OK if I start the system WITHOUT rhgb.
Everyone experiencing this bug, please test the following and provide an update as to wether it works for you or not: - Edit xorg.conf and comment out any workarounds for this problem that you may be using currently, such as any hwcursor/swcursor options. 1) Read bug #193520, which appears to be a duplicate of this one. The reporter indicates if he boots into runlevel 3 first, and then logs in as root and runs "init 5", the hardware cursor works fine. Please try this and report back if it works. Attach your X server log and config file from this run. Then: 2) Reconfigure to boot runlevel 5. Now, as per comment #27, please disable rhgb (or uninstall it), and reboot. Update the report to indicate if it works or not, and attach your X server log and config. If either or both solutions works for everyone, then it would appear that there is a bug in the nv driver, which seems to break the hardware cursor if multiple X server instances are running at the same time.
1) grub: press "a" and add "3" 1.a) init 3 ; root `init 5` ==> ok 1.b) init 3 ; user `startx` ==> ok 2) grub: press "a" and remove "rhgb" init 5 without rhgb ==> ok additional comment: if you switch from tty7 to eg tty8 the cursor ist lost again. this does not happen with disabled "HWCursor", here is ALL ok.
Created attachment 130671 [details] xorg.conf - no HWCursor settings
Created attachment 130672 [details] Xorg.0.log - init 3 - root init 5
Created attachment 130673 [details] Xorg.0.log - init 3 - user startx
Created attachment 130674 [details] Xorg.0.log - without rhgb
I've made a hardware configuration change: instead of using the integrated nVidia 6100 video, I've added an nVidia 7600 GS (PCI-E), and I'm using nVidia's 8756 release binary driver from livna. Current kernel: 2.6.16-1.2122_FC5 x86_64 Hardware cursor works fine with or without rhgb on the 7600 GS, including after a console switch. I'm not going to rip open the machine to try it with the 6100, as this machine is a small-form-factor box that makes it difficult to install or remove the card.
Removing rhgb from grub solved it for me.
Thanks guys, from the sound of comment #29, this sounds like a bug in the "nv" driver's EnterVT()/LeaveVT() perhaps. I've updated the upstream bug https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3009 with our findings, and CC'd Nvidia for comment. We'll track the issue in the Xorg bug now, as there's not much else we can do. Hopefully the problem will get resolved in CVS in the near future and we can backport a patch. If that doesn't happen though, we can reconsider this issue prior to FC6's release, and force the driver to disable hardware cursor by default on the affected hardware. Setting status to "UPSTREAM"
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To Comment #36 I have just installed the "nvidia" driver from nVidia, and I still have this problem, so it is atleast not just a problem in "nv".
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(In reply to comment #40) > *** Bug 203322 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** Satish and I had same problem with FC5/GeForce 6150LE or GeForce 6100. We both noted that removing rhgb from boot command temporarily fixed the problem, but that the cursor disappeared after logging out. I'm perplexed. Is the second X server Mike mentioned getting restarted when we log out? Is there a way to prevent that? Thank you for shedding some light on the matter.
(In reply to comment #41) > (In reply to comment #40) > > *** Bug 203322 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** > > Satish and I had same problem with FC5/GeForce 6150LE or GeForce 6100. We > both noted that removing rhgb from boot command temporarily fixed the problem, > but that the cursor disappeared after logging out. I'm perplexed. Is the > second X server Mike mentioned getting restarted when we log out? We start one X server for rhgb, and then one for each login cycle with gdm. When your session terminates, so does the X server. > Is there a way to prevent that? Not really, no. Besides not logging out, of course.
So i guess Darlene, we, nVidia users, have to live with the problem in FC 5 and wait till FC 6 gets released or else switch to SUSE 10, which is also quite sturdy as Fedora ? !!!!
Option "HWCursor" "off"
I'm still a little confused which sections in my xorg.conf to add HWCursor to. Would anyone be willing to post an example file? Thanks. Satish - does this graphics card definitely work in SUSE 10? Did you try it? Can anyone confirm or deny the rumor that this will be fixed in FC6?
For the benefit of the next casual user to stumble across this bug, the xorg bug for this is at https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3009, and contains a more detail about the xorg.conf HWCursor fix.
Given that FC6 packages the upstream nv driver, and the bug has not been fixed upstream yet, it would be difficult for this to magically start working in FC6. If this works in any other distro I'd be happy to learn of it, since that would give me some basis for comparison and probably a fix to integrate.
Created attachment 138003 [details] X Win Log Same Deal. Dell Dimension R521 with the Nvidia chipset.
Created attachment 138004 [details] X Win Log Same Deal. Dell Dimension R521 with the Nvidia chipset.
Hi, I were using FC5 with NVidia binary drivers without any problem. Recently, I've upgraded to Fedora 7 (using yum) and installed the same nvidia driver on it. But now, I've the same "invisible cursor" problem. It can be fixed by turing HWCursor off, but it has a very bad effect when using compiz. It blinks a lot and it's really unusable :(
This is weird -- since comment 36 this bug has been already closed, but all participants in this lively discussion don't seem to be bothered by it ;-). ajax, what to do about this bug?
*** Bug 193520 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
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Gianni hi hi yah I made a fresh install of fedora 7 and the cursor disapers when x window is loaded. The video is a Nvidia C51 [gforce 6150 le]
I used the image cd to test the functionality of fedora 7 on the above computer. the image works fine. Then I installed the Fedora 7 from the live CD and the pointer performs the invisible act. I hope this will help someone to solve the problem. Gianni
I have seen the invisible cursor problem as well on my new HP tx1000z laptop. Here is something interesting that I've found out. First up, this laptop has a nVidea C51 (Geforce 6150 Go). Quick background: I have some random lockup problems in Xwindows with this laptop. It is cured if I add either "noapic" or "vga=0x317" to the kernel boot options. Don't know why yet but both of those works. I also don't know what the lockup is caused by. Normally, I chose to use "noapic" option as a work around. For some reason, I got the idea to change that to vga=0x317 and see what happened. Sure enough, my mouse cursor came back. Also, maybe this is of interest as well. The following steps caused my mouse to become invisible permentantly. I'm trying to get the audio to work on this laptop. But the snd-hda-intel ALSA driver doesn't auto-detect things correctly and sound doesn't work. This is with F7 and updated on 7/29/07. Mouse cursor was visible during this time. As suggested on alsa-devel, I've upgrade to latest ALSA snapshot release of that driver. I rebooted to make the drivers work. Before reboot my cursor was fine (when I used "noapic" option). After reboot, the cursor became invisible. Changing to "vga=0x317" fixed it. Some unknown conflict between audio and video perhaps?
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The invisible cursor problem is still there in Fedora 8. The problem occurs with both "nv" and "nouveau" drivers. Aditionaly, in the case of "nouveau" driver, there is a bug ( bug 376051 ) that doesn't start the driver at boot time, so the cursor is visible in the first login. But, if you exit the session, the cursor turns to invisible in the new login screen.
Please, reopen this bug. The software rendering (HWCursor=off) is just a workaround. The cursor should be rendered by hardware. Please, also update related Fedora version to f8.
this bug was in FC5, FC6, F7 and is in F8 please read comment #c36 from mike harris 2006-06-14 13:14 EST and https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3009
Thanks for your response. I did read all the comments in this bug page some months ago. Specifically, in the comment you mention (#36), Mike Harris says the bug hopefully would be solved before fc6, and that they would track the problem at the X bug page ( https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3009 ). At the X bug page, the only solution seems to be the workaround (hwcursor=off), but there is no fix.
An update from my earlier comment. My laptop runs much better with latest kernels... No more lockups that I mentioned. But I do find that I have to boot with vga=0x317 or I can still randomly get the invisible curser. Normally, I've added the vga=0x317 to grub and so I have forgotten about the problem.
Does your cursor get invisible if you logout and then re-login? That forces the restart of the x server. If you press control-alt-backspace in the login screen (gdm), does the cursor get invisible? That kills and restarts the x server too. Thanks
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Hi all, I have not any problems with FC5. Then, I upgraded my system to F7 and my mouse cursor became invisible after rhgb. The hwcursor=off workaround works, but it is not a choice as I like to use compiz. I don't remember why, but I unchecked the "Restart the Xserver with each login" option in the gdm settings; and everything fixed. I were able to keep rhgb, and the cursor remained visible after logging out. And I forgot the problem... Yesterday, I installed Fedora 8. And the invisible mouse problem appeared again (If I remember correctly, it was visible first when my monitor was not correctly detected and it was working at low resolution. But after selecting an 1024x768 monitor type, the invisible cursor problem appeared.) Unfortunately, the "Restart the Xserver with each login" option doesn't exist anymore (I even tried to add the "AlwaysRestartServer=false" option to /etc/gdm/custom.conf, but it didn't work.) That's really annoying...
Hi again! The above comments about F8 was about the nv driver. Just after that post, I installed the binary nVidia driver from Livna, and everything is OK now. It seems that the problem has been fixed in the binary driver. (I'm using Geforce 6100 (onboard))
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I am seeing this issue using the nv driver on F8 with this video card: nVidia Corporation C51PV [GeForce 6150] (rev a2) Turning off the hardware cursor in the video card device section get the cursor back.
It is clear the only way to get the cursor back is to drop back to init 3 and modify /etc/X11/xorg.conf properly, with a option "software pinter" "yes" in the right place. My question is the same for 10 years. How does a new user of Linux learn how to do this? Why is it that UMBUTU is able to fix the pointer problem and install the proper Nvidia fix when it senses a Nvidia computer. Is Red Hat not aware of the huge market share of Nvidia? Right now Fedora has a tiny bit of the users of PC in the world. It will get smaller with this kind of problem. You can buy a computer with UMBUTU installed! You can't buy a computer with any Red Hat installed.
I'm sorry I haven't answered this sooner, I've know the cure(s) since Fedora Core 5. The problem with nVidia graphics is caused by the RedHat Graphical Boot starting an extra X-server that traps the hardware cursor. The cures are: Cure 1: In /boot/grub/grub.conf, remove "rhgb" from the kernel lines Cure 2: In versions that support it, in /etc/sysconfig/init, set "GRAPHICAL=no"
I have experienced this bug on an Acer Aspire 9300 3089 notebook (Turion MK38 with nVidia GeForce Go 6100 integrated graphics controller) running the Fedora 8 Live x86_64 CD. What is the convention? Should the "Version" be updated to 8 since it is still observed in F8? I'm guessing that upstream cares little about this bug since its only major manifestation is on Fedora (because of rhgb).
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Tony Ray has a point. I was all ready to have my very own !Fedora Core 5!, that came with "A Practical Guide to Red Hat Linux", only to have this problem to deal with. Very much putting off.
(In reply to comment #73) > What is the convention? Should the "Version" be updated to 8 since it is still > observed in F8? Doing just that.
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Ahem. Make that "Version" == 9. I am seeing this, intermittantly on: (--) NV: Found NVIDIA GeForce 6150 at 00@00:05:0 with a fresh F9 install on x86_64.
Appeared for me with: xorg-x11-drv-nv-2.1.12-6.fc10.i386 nVidia Corporation C51 [GeForce 6150 LE] (rev a2) after I started a second X server to run system-config-display on another VT. After that server exited, the cursor on the other X server disappeared. I ended up disabling HWcursor to get it to come back.
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I had this problem for years, but it seems to be fixed in Fedora 10. Can we close it, rather than letting it go WONTFIX?
Orion, can you confirm, that this has been fixed in F10, please?
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